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Gorgorath



Joined: 11 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fledge wrote:
*Unrealeased, Coming Eventually, Keep Watching Post*

- All administrators pride themselves in morality rather than having an affair with the quest writer's wife and covering it up with a malicious web of lies. (cough)
- Adminsitrators will not spam your e-mail address for an entire year because they are suspicious of your platonic relationship with their spouse. (cough)
- Adminsitrators will not put pornographic material in their avatars. (cough)
- Developers will not force players to agree to homosexual affection towards a specific developer in the EULA. (End-User License Agreement) (cough)
- NPC Chat Manuscript writers will not give sexually suggestive names to NPCs or write sexual poems about them. (cough)
- Creature Editors will not create phallical centipedes that yell out sexual inuendo until they symbolically drop potions. (cough)
- Adminsitrators enjoy flaunting the immorality of others for a good laugh. (cough)


Could you please edit your post and remove the smart remarks, i find them upsetting and offensive against our server (you know your just trying too have a go at us) Sad
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Fledge



Joined: 09 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorgorath wrote:
Fledge wrote:
*Unrealeased, Coming Eventually, Keep Watching Post*

- All administrators pride themselves in morality rather than having an affair with the quest writer's wife and covering it up with a malicious web of lies. (cough)
- Adminsitrators will not spam your e-mail address for an entire year because they are suspicious of your platonic relationship with their spouse. (cough)
- Adminsitrators will not put pornographic material in their avatars. (cough)
- Developers will not force players to agree to homosexual affection towards a specific developer in the EULA. (End-User License Agreement) (cough)
- NPC Chat Manuscript writers will not give sexually suggestive names to NPCs or write sexual poems about them. (cough)
- Creature Editors will not create phallical centipedes that yell out sexual inuendo until they symbolically drop potions. (cough)
- Adminsitrators enjoy flaunting the immorality of others for a good laugh. (cough)


Could you please edit your post and remove the smart remarks, i find them upsetting and offensive against our server (you know your just trying too have a go at us) Sad


First of all, Jeb asked for this topic to be kept clean of all posts that interrupted the list:
jeb wrote:
This thread is only intended for these announcements, other kinds of posts will be deleted.

You should have taken this up with me in a private message. However, I trust that Jeb or one of the moderators will gladly delete these two posts. And when I posted them, I checked with Khaile to make sure that there were no objections. (Edit: Yes, Braiba or someone moved it into a separate topic.)

I tried to take this up on private, but clearly you'd prefer to scrutinize me in the open:
Gorgorath and Fledge on MSN Messenger wrote:
Fledge: What exactly is wrong with my post on Oxeye?
Khaile can't find anything wrong with it.

Gorgorath: oh i thought i had you on blocked list lol
cya faggot


It's rather illogical to assume that someone is a homosexual based upon no exposure to their sexuality, especially considering that only 10% of the world's population is homosexual (I don't know the source of that statistic, sorry. Just a random piece of trivia I retained from school.) Considering that probability, I don't see what the heck you're going on. Using it as an insult for no reason is also illogical, please stop insulting me and deal with things in a mature way.

Also, why are you quoting the 'smart remarks' that aren't directed at you? You quoted the references four other servers/projects. The self-criticizing remark among those four is meant to show that this is all a joke and isn't meant to be taken seriously, though everything I said is factual. Jeb said it was all fine, to be comparing morality and immorality amongs the server shards as a way of attracting players that are fed up with such aspects about other shards. I also took the liberty of not revealing the identity of anyone involved, another indication that this was a joke. Your server was clearly not a main target, I targetted every active server or project other than Akarrian Dojo and Zions Akarra simply because their aren't self-righteous pricks like me, aren't flaunting inappropriate content or having an affair over a webcam.

Ironic, no? Laughing That is, considering you're the one who usually tells me to lighten up and learn to take a joke instead of being an uptight prick. Nothing 'took a go at' your server, since there was no indication of who did what until you opened your mouth and pointed the finger of blame at yourself.

Nowhere in the list rules does it say, "Thou shall not point out the flaws that thou doth not posses." Smile

I won't clear it unless the administration tells me to, you get a vast majority of the community to sign a petition Laughing, or if someone can prove that the portions to be cleared are not factual. I have chat logs and/or witnesses to support all of them. I also did not invade anyone's privacy because I did not point fingers at anyone.

I have a problem with the morality of parts this community, and many other people do. Braiba himself said that is why he stays away from the community and barely moderates the forums lately. I can name countless other people that are upset and the unprofessional amateur perverted desecrations of Akarra -- and some venture as far to say that it started before the shards, when Trance was writing NPC sex poems and making rubber dildo monsters. If you have a problem with that opinion that a significant portion of the community holds, that's your fault. It's losing players for many servers, and it has cast many people out of the community of shards due to their own distaste.

They are tired of exposed scandals tearing devteams apart, certain unbridled powermongering administrators, abuse of powers, immature sexual content in Akarra without even a 13+ recommendation, releases of untested buggy material that wasn't given a first or second glance at all once it slid off the drawing board, corrupt administrations, egomaniacs that can't take a hint, generally unbalanced crappy material, and the list goes on... and I am not necessarily blaming your server primarily, infact I think that Emperium Xenos is one of the better server shards as a generalization. Stuff like this was destined to happen when Jeb passed on Akarra to the general public, the public consisting partially of incapable nitwits. The sad part of it is that none of the shards are yet able to completely combine morality, balanced material, quality material and quantity of material in the right amounts to run a proper server shard.

Sure, tell me to go crawl back into my hole and cry. It won't change things. All they say is, "Akarra has gone to the dogs... literally and figuratively". Such a comment was made with reference to TbbW... Laughing But it is not implying that TbbW is necessarily both the literal and figurative dog.

Call my a cynic, but I'll just laugh at the irony cause 'cynic' is routed from the same greek word as 'canine' due to a certain philosopher that founded the cynical view. Come to think of it, Diogenes the Cynic and TbbW are probably quite similar people... not that you care about historical anecdotes. Hah hah... Cool

Or maybe you'd prefer to say the usual "omg learn to be concise and use english, FAGGOT wtf LOL Laughing" I'm sorry if you're not literate enough to care for mild verbosity and informatively intricate messages. That's not my fault, it's yours. Smile

I'm done ranting... for now. Wink
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Gorgorath



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could you leave private chat in private please...and why has this become a new thread...did someone log into my account and make it?
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Malaro



Joined: 06 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you moron, it's called "splitting" the topic.
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Gorgorath



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, another noob is back from the dead
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Malaro



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is it that I'm the noob when you ask an idiotic question like:
Gorgorath wrote:
why has this become a new thread...did someone log into my account and make it?
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Fledge



Joined: 09 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people still have the cognitive development to actually change. Don't hold old prejudice. I didn't expect this from someone like you who always says to forget the past. Once again, hypocrasy! Mad Or maybe I shouldn't use any words not covered beyond an eighth grader's reading level? Laughing Considering you're in your twenties and, if I am not mistaken, English is your first language? And you can't make simple conversation beyond a twelve year old's level in a text-based medium?

And he's made a good point: Why are you calling us noobs when you're the one asking dumb questions? It was clear in my post, which you probably didn't even read -- because you aren't literate enough to comprehend half the words, that you were interupting a topic that Khaile asked people specifically not to interupt. Braiba, Origon, Jeb or one of the other moderators took the liberty of moving your opinion and my response. I even asked one of them to in my post...

I wrote:
First of all, Jeb asked for this topic to be kept clean of all posts that interrupted the list:
jeb wrote:

This thread is only intended for these announcements, other kinds of posts will be deleted.

. . . . . . . . .
(Edit: Yes, Braiba or someone moved it into a separate topic.)


Hmm... note it says 'will be deleted'. Be glad Braiba at least moved the post into a separate topic so that you could continue to complain despite the administration approving my post. You're the one who made the mistake of posting it there in the first place, so if anyone here is a 'noob' it certainly isn't me or the newcomer. Rolling Eyes

But since the two of you clearly just want to turn this topic into an insult war with 'noob', 'moron', 'idiot' and 'faggot'... I'm not going to reply unless you actually want to maturely explain why I should change that post. Afterall, I'm not here to troll around with provocative posts and baseless insults. I assure you, my topic listing post was merely a comparison of morality. It's not like I'm blowing anything out of proportion as made-up propaganda.

Also, I can quote messages from you as much as I please. If you're verbally harassing someone in the community, they have the right to tell people and show proof. If you don't want to use messaging systems that keep quotable logs, then don't use MSN or IRC.
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Gorgorath



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malaro wrote:
How is it that I'm the noob when you ask an idiotic question like:
Gorgorath wrote:
why has this become a new thread...did someone log into my account and make it?


uh...i asked a fair question, i log in to see a new thread made by me which i never did.
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Fledge



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see too clauses in one run-on sentence that are questions. I answered them, but the reasoning behind it might have to be taken up with the adminsitration.

Q. Why has this become a new thread?

A. Everyone was asked by Jeb not to interupt the list of shards with anything that was not a listed server. Braiba moved the topic to clean things up since, as Jeb said, he would have just deleted it.

Q. Did someone log into Gorgorath's account and make this topic?

A. No, look at the post dates. A topic split command was clearly used by a member of the administration. This did not involve using your account. They merely moved a post and the replies related to it. This technique is common practive in many forums whenever someone goes off-topic. The moderators can fix it by either deleting, splitting or telling people to get back on topic. Whatever fits the situation or the preference of the moderator.

Are they fair questions? Not really. They show that you don't understand the forum system and that you can't read when people write things like:

I wrote:
Braiba or someone moved it into a separate topic


Which I clearly edited into my post long before you posted or read my post. Also, you could have checked the post times to see. The questions were all answered before you even asked them. Another reason why Malaro has every right to claim that you are a moron. It was clearly an 'idiotic question' from a clueless person who can't read concise explanations, topic rules or read a date from Malaro's viewpoint. It wasn't a fair question at all, it seems to me like you just can't stand embarassing yourself with a meaningless mistake infront of two people in the Akarra community that you hold such a great deal of contempt and prejudice towards.
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Gorgorath



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my last post in the oxeye forums, gluck jeb on your projects i hope they go well, i will see you in irc. You can now lock the topic please
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