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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, I am not the one that makes you look stupid. The person who said that, said that you were the one making your own self look stupid. You can't blame that on me.

If I said anything more about absurd assumptions and backing up opinions with facts to make them actual logical arguements... I think I'd just be repeating myself a bit too much.

By the way, the LOTR joke made me laugh outloud, literally. Even at the possible expense of Braiba's temper, it was amusing. I don't hate jokes, only ones that I find to be untasteful.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fledge wrote:
If I said anything more about absurd assumptions and backing up opinions with facts to make them actual logical arguements... I think I'd just be repeating myself a bit too much.


aren't this we are doing?
i mean fledge... how do it feels when someone is going at a person with alot of absurd assumptions ?
i was planning it to take longer then this to get to this point when you realise how pointless it is.
usually ppl just go like "aw fsck no point with arguing with fledge coz he will post a long ass response describing in detail what he means, and also to clarify it 3-4 times".
I'm just curious... how do you feel when the chairs are shifted?

and for everyone else that might wonder what the fsck this is about is coz it's an request/experiment/bet thingy to see how long it would take to get to this point ( i bet-ted two more posts doh ) and also to get his comment on how it feels when hammered with long responses and never ending nagging ( in this case I'm the nagger for once ).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I avoided repeating myself more than once. And you have yet to point out where I made any absurd assumptions. As a result, the chairs are actually not shifted.

Ted can't read my posts because of slight verbosity beyond his comprehension. In a way, this was pointless. Many people told me it was pointless because you were illiterate nincompoops whom my words were wasted upon.

And yes, I was well aware of the bet. Trying to constantly criticize me to make me feel how it is when I constantly criticize other people will not turn the tables, especially when you can't make logical criticism. However, if my criticisms were all logical and supported, it wouldn't mean anything if you guys are actually, as they say, 'illiterate morons'. Apparently any criticism, no matter how constructive, from anyone at all, is usually wasted. The phrase "arguing with a rock" or even "don't feed the trolls" could be brought up, but that's a matter of subjectivity as to which side of the arguements you can apply it to.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fledge wrote:
I avoided repeating myself more than once. And you have yet to point out where I made any absurd assumptions. As a result, the chairs are actually not shifted.

ignorance is bless to some ppl.

Fledge wrote:
Ted can't read my posts because of slight verbosity beyond his comprehension. In a way, this was pointless. Many people told me it was pointless because you were illiterate nincompoops whom my words were wasted upon.

in this case yeah it's true.

Fledge wrote:
And yes, I was well aware of the bet.

i did not know the word travled so fast that, what you and me are doing here must be something ppl are interested in the "when will it end" factor Laughing

Fledge wrote:
Trying to constantly criticize me to make me feel how it is when I constantly criticize other people will not turn the tables, especially when you can't make logical criticism.

most of the criticism you pull on people are of reasons mainly unknown to man.
sometimes when you do it looks like your wining just for the sake of wining or am i wrong? plz clearify this ( we made a bet about that as well ).

Fledge wrote:
However, if my criticisms were all logical and supported,

lol
Fledge wrote:
it wouldn't mean anything if you guys are actually, as they say, 'illiterate morons'. Apparently any criticism, no matter how constructive, from anyone at all, is usually wasted. The phrase "arguing with a rock" or even "don't feed the trolls" could be brought up, but that's a matter of subjectivity as to which side of the arguements you can apply it to.

yeah the troll and rock kinda fit's well but I'm more interested in the reason behind it all ^^
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TbbW wrote:
Fledge wrote:
And yes, I was well aware of the bet.

i did not know the word travled so fast that, what you and me are doing here must be something ppl are interested in the "when will it end" factor Laughing


Some people are treating it like a humorous "soap opera", encouraging me, and possibly others, to post for their own amusement. Honestly, that disturbs me that our bickering is entertaining. They think it's funny that I can go around pointing out sexually explicit scandals, that Gorgorath makes an illiterate fool of himself and the admins ignore his complaints, that Slayermagic is flaunting the source code in a tantalizing manner and that TbbW is responding to my criticism with sexual jokes. We've become their daily entertainment, like a bunch of arguing characters in a webcomic sketch. Confused Aside from your bet, people are finding other ways of amusing themselves with this little public arguement.

Perhaps that's another origin of your 'glowboy' comment, but I don't criticize for attention. I criticize for the remote possibility of change, which seems to be a complete impossibility here. When I scrutinized Apocalypse's balancing with Ottopedico, we initiated change. However, scrutinizing morality is entirely different. It's subjective, biased and personal -- rather than objective and logical. Besides, obviously nobody gives a damn about anything other than the damage I inadvertedly wreak upon their reputations with these wasted words.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slayermagic wrote:
What I don't get it how come this argument continued for so long?
I mean, this was suposed to be a complaint to Jeb by Apoc.
Apoc was turned down and that should have ended the whole soap opera.
So how about we stop the ragging, because it makes everyone look foolish.

P.S. Don't piss Braiba off.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No comment.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fledge wrote:
Some people are treating it like a humorous "soap opera", encouraging me, and possibly others, to post for their own amusement.

actually that's a great idea Very Happy

Fledge wrote:
Honestly, that disturbs me that our bickering is entertaining.

and alil spice of the naked wolf with that abnormal tail and it's all hysterically funny Cool ( i hope you don't think of any genital parts. i sed tail and wolfs have those. )

Fledge wrote:
They think it's funny that I can go around pointing out sexually explicit scandals,

what?! can u point out sexually explicit stuff while I'm a pervert for doing it?!
that makes us both perverts Very Happy

Fledge wrote:
that Gorgorath makes an illiterate fool of himself and the admins ignore his complaints,

can u be abit more specific coz now ur just talking bs... lol if ur gonna make something up then common make something more jusy up... preferably with some chicks with wet t-shirts in... oh and some high heals too!

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that Slayermagic is flaunting the source code in a tantalizing manner and that TbbW is responding to my criticism with sexual jokes.

ummm... leave slayermagic out of this unless u want him in the convo this is between me, myself and you.
mjeah common... u can say u get a little exited from my small comments ? Wink

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We've become their daily entertainment, like a bunch of arguing characters in a webcomic sketch. Confused Aside from your bet, people are finding other ways of amusing themselves with this little public arguement.

lol i almost read "with this little pubic" man i need to stop reading those magazines Very Happy
but yeah well... ppl have asked me if there has been any change in the forum about this subject.

Fledge wrote:
Perhaps that's another origin of your 'glowboy' comment,

two little glow boys are sitting in a tree A-R-G-U-I-N-G
long time i sang that tune ^^

Fledge wrote:
but I don't criticize for attention. I criticize for the remote possibility of change, which seems to be a complete impossibility here.

btw there was one guy in the Chan who made an interesting speculation.
it was basically about you having inner frustrations like i.e been an outcast in school or similar so it turned into insecurity and therefor criticising everyone else is a way for you to hide your own insecurity.
could i get an comment on this if it's true or not.

Fledge wrote:
When I scrutinized Apocalypse's balancing with Ottopedico, we initiated change. However, scrutinizing morality is entirely different. It's subjective, biased and personal -- rather than objective and logical. Besides, obviously nobody gives a damn about anything other than the damage I inadvertedly wreak upon their reputations with these wasted words.

yeah yeah ye that's between u and apoc and most ppl don't know about what apoc outclassed you in ( was it maby that girl that liked him as a person more then you? ) but something musta hurt you to go all this way for it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reference to sexual explicit stuff was actually the conflicting rumours two people were spreading about each other to cover up a disturbing truth involving an Akarra developer having a non-platonic relationship across a webcam with the wife of one of his admins. And it wasn't just cinnamon, spice and everything nice.

Thus, I was not referring to TbbW when I said that I was exposing sexually explicit scandals, I was referring to one of the things Apocalypse and Gorgorath wanted removed as 'offensive material'. By the way, can people please stop asking me who did what with whom, it is not for me to talk about.

And no, I do not feel the necessity to criticize for any reason like that. However, you'd have to take my word for it since I obviously can't prove it and such things are subconcious. Then there's also a little thing called 'denial'.

Oh, you're interested in what set Apocalypse and I apart? He dismissed me in an insulting rage because I had successfully dug up some truth he wanted shoved under the carpet. It could be any of those things I listed in that 'offensive material'. Basically, I couldn't put up with the lying and soap-opera-like scandals of his development team. So, I put the story out in the open for a week and he didn't really care or notice until a certain person began to cry. I was happy to be dismissed, since I was only staying, despite what he had done, because I felt obligated to finish a certain map update. He has a very incomplete version of it and he replaced the maps that were too time-consuming for him to finish.

So ending with a divorce, a child custody suit, an injured man being housed by a crackhead, a bad reputation being inadequately shoved under the carpet, me happily dismissed, a server host's mother taking away the ISP because of an affair and nearly causing a shard to die, three mappers and one quest writer left Apocalypse. They were all relatively happy with the results, and so was he. Happy? That's what makes me resent him: blaming the near-death of Akarrian Expansion upon his quest writer and alienating his mappers when he should have just ended his affair.

And why do I resent Gorgorath? I still get spam in my inbox years later, that's why!

So does this have anything to do with my childhood? Definitely not.

Clearly, I resent both of them. However, my criticism of their servers has nothing to do with my resentment. I actually give a care about their mistakes and prefer to see them fixed by constructively criticizing them. I think that was demonstrated by the group of complainers finally initiating a few "re-balancings" on AE. And criticizing their morals? Well, that all turned out to be pointless but I just wanted them to know that I thought they were wrong to do what they did. Even if they hadn't made me resent them, I would still have criticized them. That's obvious because I began my scrutinization of Apocalypse's server work long before I found out what he had done that made me resent him.

And no, I had nothing to do with any competition for girls with him. I would never go after my friend's wife across the internet with a webcam. Besides, there's probably a 5 to 15 year age difference. That could be reverse-paedophilia.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fledge, ever taken a vacation?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fledge wrote:
The reference to sexual explicit stuff was actually the conflicting rumours two people were spreading about each other to cover up a disturbing truth involving an Akarra developer having a non-platonic relationship across a webcam with the wife of one of his admins. And it wasn't just cinnamon, spice and everything nice.

hmmm... so ur like apoc's dad and now ur now gonna set him straight by spreading the rumor out to diffrent ppl so everyone knows about it ?
and then write an complaint about it here on oxeye without mentioning his name when u made sure everyone know's what ur talking about?

Fledge wrote:
Thus, I was not referring to TbbW when I said that I was exposing sexually explicit scandals, I was referring to one of the things Apocalypse and Gorgorath wanted removed as 'offensive material'. By the way, can people please stop asking me who did what with whom, it is not for me to talk about.

aaaw common i allways wanted to be a sexual scandal.
and dude... u gotta be stupid or just playing dumb... about the "can people please stop asking me who did what with whom"...
why the fsck did you post that shit unless u wanted to glow about it?
tard lol

Fledge wrote:
And no, I do not feel the necessity to criticize for any reason like that. However, you'd have to take my word for it since I obviously can't prove it and such things are subconcious. Then there's also a little thing called 'denial'.

ummm no shit surlock? Smile

Fledge wrote:
Oh, you're interested in what set Apocalypse and I apart? He dismissed me in an insulting rage because I had successfully dug up some truth he wanted shoved under the carpet. It could be any of those things I listed in that 'offensive material'. Basically, I couldn't put up with the lying and soap-opera-like scandals of his development team. So, I put the story out in the open for a week and he didn't really care or notice until a certain person began to cry. I was happy to be dismissed, since I was only staying, despite what he had done, because I felt obligated to finish a certain map update. He has a very incomplete version of it and he replaced the maps that were too time-consuming for him to finish.

to much detales man... and what if he flirted with someone?
i mean... how low can u get when u try to dig upp crap about ur team mates?
if i where in ur shoe's with i'm happely blessed with that i'm not.
i wuld just say to apoc "sry man i gotta go, coz this is not working" and then just let him do what he wants without me been jellus of him getting a flirt and tryes to tell the world how imoral it is to flirt with girls.

Fledge wrote:
So ending with a divorce, a child custody suit, an injured man being housed by a crackhead, a bad reputation being inadequately shoved under the carpet, me happily dismissed, a server host's mother taking away the ISP because of an affair and nearly causing a shard to die, three mappers and one quest writer left Apocalypse. They were all relatively happy with the results, and so was he. Happy? That's what makes me resent him: blaming the near-death of Akarrian Expansion upon his quest writer and alienating his mappers when he should have just ended his affair.

the more stuff u write the more it sounds like ur trying to be his dad...
apoc is a grown man, ur acting like his dad or his xgirlfriend or something...
let ppl's relationships be....
this actualy rings a bell to me... u where after gorg and luna the exactly same way a few years ago, remember?
u culd not leave other ppl be happy ot take responsibilitys for ther own actions.

i mean COMMON! lmao
grow up!

Fledge wrote:
And why do I resent Gorgorath? I still get spam in my inbox years later, that's why!

no lol that's not why lmao.
i whas there in the channel remember? i even booted you out after trying to comunicate with you telling you stuff like "be the bether man and walk away" and also "common for how long are we gonna keep on doing this?".
there whas another relationship u culd not leave alone... ( anyone else see a patern here? )

Fledge wrote:
So does this have anything to do with my childhood? Definitely not.

how about current situation then?

Fledge wrote:
Clearly, I resent both of them. However, my criticism of their servers has nothing to do with my resentment. I actually give a care about their mistakes and prefer to see them fixed by constructively criticizing them. I think that was demonstrated by the group of complainers finally initiating a few "re-balancings" on AE. And criticizing their morals? Well, that all turned out to be pointless but I just wanted them to know that I thought they were wrong to do what they did. Even if they hadn't made me resent them, I would still have criticized them. That's obvious because I began my scrutinization of Apocalypse's server work long before I found out what he had done that made me resent him.

so... do you resent me for having my way with girls aswell?
and isent it imoral to not be able to let ppl have ther privacy?

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And no, I had nothing to do with any competition for girls with him. I would never go after my friend's wife across the internet with a webcam. Besides, there's probably a 5 to 15 year age difference. That could be reverse-paedophilia.

hmmm biggest diff for me was 20years... ( well i had to try an older one ).
but i whas an adult ( 19yrs of age and in sweden you can have an 90yr old one and it's legal u know ).
and no it's not reverse-paedophilia... it sounds more like jelusy... most boy's dream of an older woman, preferably something that looks like ther mother in somway ( haricollor or eyes.. like some feature alike and not like her sister or simething kinky like that ) Laughing
and u get to a point in you'r life when you realise age is just a mathematical number and not realy any proof of one's matureness nor it's proof of one's fysical development.
then a few years later you dont go "yey it's my birthday!" instead u go "oh crap... one year closer to 30".

soooo... i can promise you little fledge... i'm a bigger pig then both apoc and gorg culd be... so do you resent me yet ?
i sure dont think of them as pigs...
ever herd the song "boys will be boys" ? what do you think that song is about ? Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, my paedophilia reference was rhetorical and the word was slightly misused. However, a lot of societies frown upon relationships that have a vast age gap, even more so at young ages. In no way am I talking about legality.

This is not a complaint, I was answering your question about resentment. Don't turn this into something it isn't to make me look even more like a complaining troll.

As for the situations you are commenting on, you don't know what you're talking about at all because you have a limited view of what happened. And I am not going to widen your view or anyone else's here with my personal opinion and observations, it is a complete waste of my time and isn't relevant to the 'offensive material'. If you're going to post messages like that accusing me of simple patronization, learn what the heck you're talking about before you judge what is and isn't necessary. Besides, I didn't post this to scold him or criticize him, I posted it to explain my resentment.

And if you really want to talk about chat logs, I clearly said I would put things aside the moment he removed my e-mail address from the spam lists. And apart from mentioning it occasionally when people ask about my resentment or what all the spam on the Obsidia Roleplay forum is from, I don't bother him about finally removing me from those lists and taking responsibility for his own assumptions. And even after he said he had put things aside, he was the one showing up spamming the Obsidia Chatbox with the alias "Poo Man" yelling "I poo my undies!". So don't try and tell me who has or hasn't put things aside, though he heartily denies it despite the exact IP match. I've stopped asking him to spam me and put it aside, but I still get his spam. Thus, I resent him a little cause I still have to delete his stupid spam. There's a difference between dropping it with lingering resentment cause he hasn't stopped and, still demanding him to stop.

And don't bother to use human nature, "boys will be boys", to explain a lack of propriety. That arguement means nothing when it is also human nature to form moral values. It's like trying to justify nuclear warfare by saying "some people are destructive". It has no relevance.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fledge wrote:
Yes, my paedophilia reference was rhetorical and the word was slightly misused. However, a lot of societies frown upon relationships that have a vast age gap, even more so at young ages. In no way am I talking about legality.

yeh but u proved ur one of those ppl that judge numbers and not persons...
in other words u judge ppl for small things and not the whole picture.

Fledge wrote:
This is not a complaint, I was answering your question about resentment. Don't turn this into something it isn't to make me look even more like a complaining troll.

ty for answering it.
u dont know how hard it can be to get some answers some times ^^

Fledge wrote:
As for the situations you are commenting on, you don't know what you're talking about at all because you have a limited view of what happened. And I am not going to widen your view or anyone else's here with my personal opinion and observations, it is a complete waste of my time and isn't relevant to the 'offensive material'. If you're going to post messages like that accusing me of simple patronization, learn what the heck you're talking about before you judge what is and isn't necessary. Besides, I didn't post this to scold him or criticize him, I posted it to explain my resentment.
1. yeh it wuld be a waste of time coz i wuld let apoc have his flirts/romances alone.
2. no plz dont widen my eyes on how to spy on other ppl's privatelife.
3. i think it's 'offensive' to invade someone's private life rater then been offensive in ur actions in private.
4. ur right it's not realy nessasery to mention anything but yet u do everytime u get the chance.

Fledge wrote:
And if you really want to talk about chat logs, I clearly said I would put things aside the moment he removed my e-mail address from the spam lists. And apart from mentioning it occasionally when people ask about my resentment or what all the spam on the Obsidia Roleplay forum is from, I don't bother him about finally removing me from those lists and taking responsibility for his own assumptions. And even after he said he had put things aside, he was the one showing up spamming the Obsidia Chatbox with the alias "Poo Man" yelling "I poo my undies!". So don't try and tell me who has or hasn't put things aside, though he heartily denies it despite the exact IP match. I've stopped asking him to spam me and put it aside, but I still get his spam. Thus, I resent him a little cause I still have to delete his stupid spam. There's a difference between dropping it with lingering resentment cause he hasn't stopped and, still demanding him to stop.
lol he did?
did the "poo man" name offend you?
offended u egnuf to bring it up as an argument ? lmfao... no i mean where is the world going? Laughing
when ppl's pages get spammed with "i poo my undies!" it's more hilerius then offensive.

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And don't bother to use human nature, "boys will be boys", to explain a lack of propriety. That arguement means nothing when it is also human nature to form moral values. It's like trying to justify nuclear warfare by saying "some people are destructive". It has no relevance.
girls are not property.... now ur the pig and you are also sexist!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A metaphor of sexual affairs and a nuclear bomb destroying a plot of land was not the intention at all... but thanks for catching that. I really didn't mean it to sound like a sexist metaphor.

As for the spam, I don't care about your biased leaning towards it being your friend. You tolerate spam, some people don't. You've let far worse go by with just a laugh on EX, so I suppose most spam means nothing to you? Muting and deleting, actual moderation, is useful to improve gameplay.

And I did not actually do the digging. I just saw lies, heard the other side of a story, and asked questions to verify things. However, someone was invading of privacy by digitally spying on someone else in it all, but that is not relevant since I didn't do it. However, you're welcome to accuse me of invading Apocalypse's private life when I tell people about what happened. But, really he is the one invading someone else's private life when he spreads lies about what happened. I was just clearing up his web of lies, not trying to weave my own or purposely harm him in spite. I care that Apocalypse tried to ruin someone's reputation with lies and as a result, I was exposing the truth back on the AE forums. Sure, I could have just said it was all a lie, but not everyone would have believed me over him. Besides, I personally think he should feel how it is to have someone degrade his reputation since that's what he did to his quest writer's reputation. For me, it was about truth, not degradation. If you think I'm an ass for doing all that just to unveil lies, then so be it.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fledge wrote:
A metaphor of sexual affairs and a nuclear bomb destroying a plot of land was not the intention at all... but thanks for catching that. I really didn't mean it to sound like a sexist metaphor.
you'r welcome.

Fledge wrote:
As for the spam, I don't care about your biased leaning towards it being your friend. You tolerate spam, some people don't. You've let far worse go by with just a laugh on EX, so I suppose most spam means nothing to you? Muting and deleting, actual moderation, is useful to improve gameplay.
i cant see how moderation of a comunity can improve the comunity itself. you'r thinking of creating a clean game with clean language use... there is no such thing fledge... i mean u musta learned that from ur last admin era... you can run around banning/muting/deleting ppl all day long and you will still not be able to clean it all... leave it be... i know genetal words and also "explisit" language offend you... hell even "poo" ( an version of "shit" that 4yr olds use ) offend you. ur gonna have alot of work ahead of you.

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And I did not actually do the digging. I just saw lies, heard the other side of a story, and asked questions to verify things.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dig
4. To learn or discover by careful research or investigation: dug up the evidence; dug out the real facts.

Fledge wrote:
However, someone was invading of privacy by digitally spying on someone else in it all, but that is not relevant since I didn't do it. However, you're welcome to accuse me of invading Apocalypse's private life when I tell people about what happened. But, really he is the one invading someone else's private life when he spreads lies about what happened.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/privacy
a. The quality or condition of being secluded from the presence or view of others.
b. The state of being free from unsanctioned intrusion: a person's right to privacy.

Fledge wrote:
I was just clearing up his web of lies, not trying to weave my own or purposely harm him in spite. I care that Apocalypse tried to ruin someone's reputation with lies and as a result, I was exposing the truth back on the AE forums.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rat
a. A despicable person, especially one who betrays or informs upon associates.

Fledge wrote:
Sure, I could have just said it was all a lie, but not everyone would have believed me over him. Besides, I personally think he should feel how it is to have someone degrade his reputation since that's what he did to his quest writer's reputation. For me, it was about truth, not degradation. If you think I'm an ass for doing all that just to unveil lies, then so be it.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/defensive
4. Psychology Constantly protecting oneself from criticism, exposure of one's shortcomings, or other real or perceived threats to the ego.
yeh you'r defending your self.

i hope this dictionary helps you understand what you'r doing ^^
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